Since the introduction of No Country For Young Women in 2018, Sadia Azmat and Monty Onanuga — companions who initially met as work associates in a call focus — have been making ready for crude, genuine, and diverting podcasting in the UK. The show’s profile has soar in the course of the most recent two years in the wake of finding a home on BBC Sounds, with scenes leaving no clumsy subject or humorous discussion unturned.
Depicted as a digital recording on: “Life, love, and work in a white man’s reality,” humorists Sadia and Monty investigate what it’s truly similar to being ladies of shading in Britain, particularly when on occasion you just feel Brit-ish. They work through the difficulties ladies of shading face working in the corporate world, and spread themes including family, sex and connections, and diversion and culture.
Just to finish it off, the pair include some mind blowing visitors and have just talked with Stateside entertainer and on-screen character Phoebe Robinson, writer of top rated novel Queenie Candice Carty-Williams, and vocalist musician Joy Crookes, to give some examples.
Without a moment to spare for the happy scene, I addressed the hosts about the weights of code-exchanging at work, why unthinkable subjects are so significant for ladies of shading, the intensity of web recordings, and what to do in case you’re forlorn this Christmas, or don’t agree with your family.
Niellah Arboine: How did No Country For Young Women begin?
Sadia Azmat: We sort of consistently had these discussions about how we’re British, yet once in a while we don’t generally feel British in specific conditions. For instance, in case we’re doing an office work we need to put on an alternate face. It’s the manner by which we explore being ladies of shading, and furthermore getting d*ck en route!
NA: And how did both of you initially meet?
SA: We were cooperating many, numerous years back at a call focus and I was attempting to be an entertainer, and Monty was doing comdy as well, so we had a mutual interest.
NA: What’s so important about talking about taboo or uncomfortable topics especially as people of colour in the UK?
Monty Onanuga: A lot of these taboo topics have been happening behind the scenes. For example, if you come from an ethnic minority background, parents will push you to study, study, study and as soon as you’ve finished studying “get married, get married, get married! Have kids, have kids!” If we’ve never seen a bloke in our lives before, don’t even know what a d*ck is, how are we supposed to make a kid? How do we know we’re entering into healthy and fulfilling relationships if we don’t have these conversations?
It’s important to talk about things like touching yourself, knowing what you like before you end up in a place where you’ve never had a decent orgasm before. These conversations should happen, because our parents do it, we do it, it’s been happening for millennia – so let’s talk about it.
NA: You talk a lot about this idea of code switching [as] “balancing your ethnic”. Is it something you find annoying or do you see it as a superpower?
MO: I work in a corporate space. I’ve never considered code switching a superpower but maybe it should be. I find that I have to soften the way that I speak at work, if I challenge something in the same way that my colleagues might challenge something, I’m deemed as aggressive. I use the name Monty, because people can’t pronounce my name properly.
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But some of the things I’ve had to switch in the past like my appearance, for example. I don’t feel conscious to wear faux locs to work, things like that are becoming a little bit more acceptable. People are speaking out against it.
NA: What guests so far on your show stands out for you the most?
SA: We’re really lucky we’ve had a mixture of comedians, musicians and actors. It’s a nice balance of tone. We had a showcase in Edinburgh of up and coming and very established comedians. Aditi Mittal and Vir Das who both had Netflix specials and are at the top of their game. We’ve also had Nish Kumar and Rose McGowan, that’s one of our most high profile stars.
MO: We’ve also had influencers, people that I follow. It’s cool to have people that we like and respect on the podcast, and being able to share experiences and realising we’re not that dissimilar and just having a chat and giggle.